Sunday, August 17, 2014

Drop the Sin Talk: The Fix Q&A with Drew Brooks
Drew Brooks from Faith Partners discusses how congregations across the country are getting real with substance abuse prevention, intervention and more.

Drew Brooks



08/15/14





Faith Partners was established in 1995 by religious leaders seeking ways to mobilize the resources of the faith community to address alcohol and drug issues. The organization’s mission is to engage and assist people of faith in the development of caring communities that promote prevention of alcohol, tobacco and other drug abuse and to create a place where recovery from addiction is valued and supported.

As a recovering addict and practicing Christian, Drew Brooks, Executive Director of Faith Partners, understands the struggles of addiction. In recovery from alcohol and drug abuse since 1980, Brooks received chemical dependency counselor training at Hazelden in 1983-84. He worked in treatment, prevention and public health for years before finding his place at Faith Partners in 1999. “This job allows me to merge my professional life of working with treatment, prevention and public health with my personal life of faith and recovery,” he says. “Almost 60% of people don’t know where to go in their own congregation for help with addiction. Similarly, a congregational member has about a fifty-fifty chance of knowing where to go in their community for help. Part of our goal is to coordinate team members within congregations who can become educated on resources available to the community.”

Brooks talked with The Fix about the ins and outs of Faith Partners.

What is the program modeled after?

It was modeled after congregational team ministries established by Parkside Lutheran Hospital in the Chicago area in the 1970-80s who provided education on the disease and recovery resources. Our Faith Partners teams started primarily with awareness, education and recovery support. We have made the model more comprehensive and non-profit-based versus treatment center-based. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism states that roughly 30% of people who are legal drinking age abstain, 30% abuse alcohol or can be diagnosed as being alcoholics, and about 40% use and misuse alcohol providing multiple ministry and service points along this continuum. These numbers are true in most every community, especially in intergenerational communities like the faith community. But sometimes congregations will only get into recovery ministry and it will become kind of the step child of the congregation—something that happens in room 22. People know who goes intothat room, and it doesn’t necessarily get embraced by the whole congregation. However, almost everyone in a congregation has had to make a decision about alcohol or drug use at some point in their own lives or in the lives of their children or other loved ones. Plus, every transition in life is a time of vulnerability—for example, going from middle school to high school, getting married or divorced, having a first child, losing a job, retiring, grieving over loved ones. In fact, the largest growing population of alcoholism is seen in older adults who see more and more people they love die, their bodies and minds start to fail them, [they are] starting to take more medications, and some [are] struggling with purpose in their retirement years. My point is that congregations are a place where all generations intertwine, so providing information about substance abuse in this setting reaches across many generational lines.

How does Faith Partners help congregations?

We have three underlying goals to our training. 1. Creating a safe place. 2. Having the conversation within the congregation. 3. Meeting people where they’re at in their experience and decision-making. 

We hold a leadership one-day training where we involve clergy, staff, and lay leaders, so they can understand what Faith Partners is about. It’s followed up with a team training session to educate the team and congregation about prevention, addiction, and recovery, as well as where we introduce them to prevention resources in their community or to a gatekeeper who can open their world to prevention, intervention, advocacy, and resources. Once members begin to understand the issues, they begin to see where their interests may be. It’s an organic approach, tailored to meet the needs of each congregation. 

Although organic, it becomes concrete when you create that awareness and you understand the readiness and the receptiveness of the congregation and meet them where they’re at in education and recovery support. At one congregation, there were two social workers on the team who wanted to have support groups in the congregation, but a survey of their members showed that the congregation wanted help with prevention. The social workers still wanted to hold the support groups, and of course, nobody attended. Each congregation has to understand what their congregation wants. This involves some assessing, capacity building, planning, implementation, and evaluation.

How are the teams set up?

They are a group of lay people who are interested in becoming educated about addiction and in helping their congregation and community address it. They’re often in recovery themselves or have been touched by addiction, and they see the church as an effective educational platform of support. 

Teams are trained in five areas of service including prevention, early intervention, referral assistance, recovery support, and advocacy. Some teams might address one of these areas and others might address all. Some might take one at a time and move on to others as they get a better understanding of the issue and as more people get involved. The ultimate goal is for them to choose programs to meet the needs of their congregational community.

Are you working with mostly Christian congregations?

We have close to 400 trained teams in 24 states in 20 different faith traditions that are primarily Christian, but we do work with Jewish and Muslim congregations as well. The culture of any congregation is different even if they’re from the same faith tradition, depending on the region of the country they’re in. An Episcopalian from Portland Oregon is much different than an Episcopalian from Massachusetts as is a Baptist in Kentucky to a Methodist in Kentucky to a Lutheran in Minnesota. They all theologically approach this differently. Some see it as a sin, and some understand the disease, and embrace the brain research, while others incorporate both. What we say in our training is that we are not here in one day or two days to change your theology; we would be pretty arrogant to think we can change that. But what we want you to do is to rub up against your own theology and to evaluate if it’s an effective response to those families and individuals experiencing addiction.

We also have experienced that the structure and framework of Muslim congregations isn’t necessarily about programming, but more around meeting in prayer so it’s a little more challenging in these settings. In 2007 and 2008, we were invited to speak at the annual conference of the Islamic Society of North America. One of our past advisory council members is Muslim and he spoke about how substance abuse is never discussed because it’s against the religion to drink, yet abuse happens across all religions. In the Muslim community, it’s creating that safe place, having the conversation, and then organically starting to respond based on the needs and receptiveness of the individuals, congregation, and community.

How do congregations reach their members through advocacy?

One congregation in Minnesota did a quarterly forum during their adult education hour where they had somebody come in and talk about gambling, eating disorders, sexual addiction, alcohol and how these affect families. At first, they had about 10 people and then it grew to 75-100 people. People began to realize that just because they walked in the door to get the information didn’t mean they had one of the issues discussed, but that it was a time to understand and learn how to respond to those who do. Having a regular time to educate the congregation allows individuals and families to step into the ministry and share their stories rather than just having congregation leaders tell them what to do. One of the first steps to advocacy is being comfortable with your own story in your own skin and hopefully being able to share that story of transformation. There was a woman in Wisconsin who was in Al-Anon for 24 years and she came to a leadership training. When asked to share her story, her response was, “Oh. I could never tell my story.” 

Unfortunately, this limited her story to inside the four walls of Al-Anon. Another woman in a congregation had been coming to the congregational team meetings for about six months before she came to me and said, “I finally figured out what I want to do to help in this ministry. My son has been in every system—legal, disciplinary, mental health, and substance abuse, and as a parent I didn’t have a clue how to navigate these systems. I want other parents to know what to do.” So she developed a parent advocacy group.

Do you address behavioral addictions and mental health issues?

We’d like to, but again, it’s meeting a congregation where they’re at. Some might think mental illnesses are an issue that mental health clinics should address, not a church. However, it takes about three to five years for this ministry to become part of a congregation. Since we don’t want to go in there overwhelming people, we start with substance abuse since it’s been talked about for a little longer, and there’s less stigma around it than say sexual addiction. Shortly after the program is set up, leaders will begin to start addressing all addictions. Then eventually after addressing these, they’ll realize that mental health issues should be addressed too as they start to realize that so many mental illnesses coexist with an addiction. It naturally evolves in that direction, but the worlds are a little different. Mental health doesn’t necessarily talk about recovery in the sense that substance abuse does. You don’t usually hear a schizophrenic or a person dealing with depression say they’re in recovery, they’re more likely to say they’re seeing a therapist or taking medication. Part of the issue is that the fields need to educate each other so that for people who are new to them, it’s less confusing and they are able to understand that there are common denominators. For instance, both mental illnesses and addictions are brain diseases – although they often affect different parts of the brain.

What addiction treatment options are encouraged?

We know that there are many pathways to recovery and that we have to present options that fit each individual’s or congregation’s beliefs. For instance, some faith traditions might say using the idea of higher power in 12 step programs is introducing a false God. Other congregations might be open to a spiritual transformation approach, which might include 12 step programs. Others might be open to the idea of people getting into recovery through a religious conversion. Others include Smart recovery, 12 step recovery, Christian counseling, therapy, it’s whatever the congregation and theology and religious tradition will embrace.

Do all treatment options presented to congregations have a spiritual component?

Many times religious leaders will tell addicts that finding a God is all they need for recovery. That is an uninformed stance. However, spirituality as a supplement to recovery can be effective. A person’s family, work life, and every aspect of their life have to be part of recovery. 

Some people will tell me that they have to go to a Christian counselor. While I respect that, I make sure to tell them that it will limit their options, especially if that is not available within a community. Faith Partners embraces faith and science. For the longest time the two have been like two ships passing in the night. There are some faith traditions that are very skeptical of science. We try to introduce the science, whether it be brain research, motivational interviewing, stages of change, or other ideas. There are also practitioners of science that are skeptical about certain theologies. We advocate for each institution informing the other.

What would you say to people who insist that spirituality doesn’t have a place in recovery?

There’s no doubt there are multiple paths to recovery. However, a person in recovery is limited if there isn’t a spiritual component. Spirituality, defined in the research article, “So Help Me God” by Joseph Califano of the Center of Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, is a personal and individualized response to God, a higher power or an animating force in the world. It’s something outside of ourselves that touches something within us. The 12-step program which describes growing along spiritual lines as creating a right relationship with ourselves, others, and God, and without those, we’re more likely going to relapse. I’ve yet to see a growing and long-lasting recovery that has not had a spiritual component.

One of the things that I’d say to people on the outside looking in is that there is a difference between religion and spirituality. Religion is a core set of beliefs that is shared by a community through practices, rituals and forms of governance that determine how these beliefs are expressed. In some cases, if you don’t abide by them, you might be excluded from the religion. Many people are leaving their church because they don’t find that it’s spiritual, and they’re able to develop their own personal response to God without a religion. Although I’m an active Christian, I understand this sentiment. If people witness hypocrisy in organized religion, why would they want to be part of it?

Has your approach helped any clergy along the way?

In the early 2000s, our parent organization Johnson Institute partnered with the National Association for Children of Alcoholics (NaCOA) and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Service Administration (SAMHSA) to develop a list of core competencies for clergy. NaCOA now offers a one-day clergy education training, while Faith Partners have a two-day training session. Each session equips clergy to be able to respond to addiction. Faith Partners also encourages clergy to embrace the congregational team ministry because it can expand their pastoral care so they don’t have to know all the resources in the community or be the expert on 12-step programs since they would have a group of lay people doing that work for them. Clergy used to be one of the healthiest professions in the 50s and 60s, but now it’s one of the unhealthy professions because often clergy are expected to meet the congregation’s needs 24-7. There tends to be a lack of boundaries. Our program shows them how they can reach out to experts in the field and members of their congregation for ministry support to help address substance abuse and addiction.

This may seem commonsensical, but we know that the key for these congregational teams to get going is to have an understanding and supportive clergy. There are times that clergy are suffering with addiction issues and either want to avoid the subject or invite it in so they can come in the backdoor. This also happens with members of the congregation who volunteer to be team members. In both cases, it’s still a good way to bring the ministry to the congregation. On the other hand, we’ve had some clergy sabotage the programs because they have addiction and don’t want to address it or because they don’t believe it’s the congregation’s place. 

Is it a goal of Faith Partners to get people to join a congregation?

It might be for some congregations, but that’s an ill-advised motivation because people will see right through it if it is the primary purpose. Our first motivation is to create a safe place for those who are broken, meeting them in their felt need, and if this leads to embracing the community through this transformational process, that is God’s doing.

How extensive is church acceptance of treatment over jail?

It depends on if the congregation sees addiction as a sin or disease. We suggest that they embrace both. For instance, in the 12-step program, the first step is the only step dealing with the physical disease of powerlessness (physical compulsion and mental obsession) – it is the remaining 11 steps that deal with the wreckage that being active in their addiction has created – for many that can be defined as sin. Our work with clergy and congregations is to see that it can be both, but the timing to introduce alcoholism as a disease and the accompanying sin is critical in meeting people where they are in their experience and their understanding.

Having said that, if the consequences are that the person needs to go to jail, it may be an intervention for them to seek help. However, I would argue that most people in jail for drug and alcohol [related offenses] have committed non-violent crimes, and treatment would be the better answer. There’s drug courts that are moving people toward treatment, such as attending 12-step meetings. There are pros and cons to that. For instance, can this practice create a perception that attending 12-step programs is a punishment? Ultimately, addiction is a disease. Addicts aren’t bad people trying to get good, we’re sick people trying to get well. But addicts do break the law. I broke the law, I just didn’t get caught. Ideally, we’d like to see people get treatment and start moving toward their own wholeness rather than being forced into it through fear, pain and anger.

How is Faith Partners funded?

In the big picture, through private donations, fees for service and federal contracts with organizations like the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Individually, it is a network of congregations, a community coalition, an agency, a denomination, or a state that requests our services. For instance, a clergy association may ask us to come into their area and work with their congregations, so we develop a contract with them and they pay for the costs. Other times a prevention center might contribute a grant toward the funding in its area. Another example, in the mid-2000s, we were endorsed by the United Methodist Church and the Presbyterian Church resulting in our working for four years with the United Methodist Church around the country engaging their congregations.

For the past three years, we’ve been involved with the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services on the prevention side. They have 17 regional prevention centers which equip and resource communities. What we have done is give the regional prevention centers the tools they need to be able to give congregations the knowledge they need to start this ministry or service in their congregations. We’ve trained several people so once Faith Partners steps away, they know how to go to the next community interested in this and then as communities develop receptiveness, this state coordinated cadre of trainers will provide the training. It’s pretty exciting for us to reach people in this way by equipping the faith community to help individuals and families get the help that they need.

To learn more about Faith Partners, visit www.faith-partners.org

    
Recovery Coach Training

 
Just in: dates for the final 2014 Recovery Coach training class. So far, COA has trained more than 70 recovery coaches, who are using their skills in their professional careers, service work (like at COA!), and personal lives. For details about COA's Recovery Coaches, click here.

This will be COA's 4th class, and will be held Sept. 27 to Oct. 3

For details about this class, or to register, click here If you are interested in this training, PLEASE REGISTER ASAP. There has been a lot of interest in this class, and we expect it to fill soon, especially since COA offers the class at a substantial discount to identical trainings from other organizations.
New Treatment Scholarship Program at COA
     
COA has just introduced a new scholarship program for people without health insurance/other resources. 

These scholarships are funded thru a grant from the Mary Lou Mosner Memorial Family Fund, and honor the memory of Patrick Mosner, who passed in January 2012. 

COA is including this fund as part of the Walk With the Angels fundraising, as both will be used for scholarships. To learn more about this new program (& Patrick) - or to make a donation to this team, which will be used specifically for these scholarships - click here

 To visit the main fundraising website for Walk with the Angels, click here.

  

Walk With the Angels will be held onSeptember 14, 2014 in Mercer County Park to will support continued scholarships for recovery. It will feature live music from Dana Isles & Facedown as well as Dirty Jerzee (formerly Soulfire), testimonials from recoverees, great food, vendors & more....

The goal is to raise $50,000 and 100% of that will be used to send people to treatment for addiction and/or get them into sober living or medical care.
   



*COA is a service organization: all COA services are completely free of charge and everyone who works for COA is a volunteer. That means we can be completely objective and impartial, recommending the best options for our clients, based upon their individual situations. For help with a drug problem, call COA at 609-910-4942 or visit us online atwww.cityofangelsnj.org.
COA Angels at Trenton Thunder

The City of Angels baseball team, the Angels, will host a fundraising event at the Trenton Thunder.

COA will have 200 tickets for the Thunder's Friday night 7:05 pm August 29, game against the Reading Phillies at Thunder Stadium. Tickets are $11 and it's "Bobble-Head" give away night.

In addition, the Angels will play a game at Thunder Stadium against their NJABL rivals, the Mercer Panthers. The game will be on Sunday, August 24 at noon. More details to follow.

City of Angels is a non-profit, 501c.3 and proceeds will go to support COA's community outreach efforts with the Angels.

Stay tuned for a possible VIP fundraiser the night of the Aug 29 game in a Thunder Luxury box. Only twenty tickets will be available for this event.

The Angels star pitcher, twenty year-old Sage Ferraro, lost his battle with addictions on July 14 and will be remembered by City of Angels.

Contacts for tickets will be Angels: Jon Dilisa (609) 638-1571, Brett Marini (609) 802-8661, Jon Macciocca (609) 906-0988 and Panthers: Ray Bearce (609) 571-5072.
Help for Families in Williamstown, NJ

Please join us as City Of Angels Williamstown Chapter Family Group Meetings begin at the Pfeiffer Community Center, Conference Room B (upstairs), 301 Blue Bell Road, Williamstown, NJ 08094.

Addiction is a Family Disease that is an "equal opportunity destroyer" that can inflict on any family regardless of where you live or who you are. There are no statistics or data that is driven by the emotional, physical, and mental effects caused by addiction.

However, there are ways to cope when a loved one suffers from substance dependency. Open communication is very important to re-establishing and maintaining a healthy family dynamic, during and after the addicted family member's treatment.

Deepening the understanding of substance abuse by sharing personal experiences and seeing that No One Has To Do This Alone is the first step to restore the balance not only in your own life you for the family as well.


COA's Family Support Group Meetings offer education, resources, peer support and hope for parents, family members, loved ones and those who are affected by the disease of addiction to encourage and promote Healthy Recovery for Families. Meetings are the 2nd & 4th Monday of every month at 7:00 pm.

For more information please email michele@cityofangelsnj.org
On COARR 
Let's Talk About Recovery!

With 10 original shows, COARR plays Recovery Talk 24/7/365....past shows are available online atwww.coaradio.com/pastshows.html and in each show's online archive. 

Tune in thru the smartphone app (free in the iphone/droid stores) or on www.coaradio.com to hear what's playing now.....

 


Exploriment with Recovery Musician Kathy Moser

Each week, recovery musician Kathy Moser explores the creative process for artists in recovery.....debunking the notion that drugs and music must always go together.

These shows feature great Indie music, interviews with inspiring performers and thought provoking topics. But while they focus on the creative process for artists, they are helpful & entertaining for EVERYONE....because we're ALL creative people, in our businesses, in our relationships and in our lives.  

Listen to past Wings Over Water shows at  

Visit Kathy's website atwww.kathymoser.com
   
Listen to past COARR shows any time:

For "Women & Addiction" with Terri Thomas, click here.

For "Hope Fiend" with Minister Rich Mollica, click here.

For "Emotional Sobriety" with Andy Finley MFT, click here.

For "Journey Thru the 12 Steps with the Life Recovery Bible," click here.

For "Share Your Scars" with Vicki, click here.

For "Wings Over Water: Creativity in Recovery" with recovery musician Kathy Moser,  click here.

For "Laughter & Recovery" with stand up comic Wil B. Kleen, click here.

For "Relationships in Recovery" with Alexa, click here.

For "Saving Lives" with COA Director of Interventions Tom Redneck Clark, click here.

For "Nar-Anon Families of Addiction Information Line" click here.
A Benefit to Help Fight Addiction

12pm to 8pm - Free Event!

Donations will be accepted at the gate




On the Campus of Christian Life Center

3100 Galloway Rd
Bensalem, PA 19020

Our 2nd annual outdoor Conquering Grounds Music Fest to benefit our CLPRM Scholarship Fund, helping those struggling with addiction and coming out of prison.

This rain or shine event features... 
9 Christian Artists/Bands
3 dynamic speakers AND 3 testimonies! 
Lots of great food, vendors, prayer & fellowship
Children's Play Area - Moonbounce, Playground, Face Painting ect..

...all for a fantastic cause and all for F-R-E-E! Yep, you read that right...FREE!!! Jesus paid the price! 




We need YOUR support and will be taking donations at the gate!! 

Don't miss this amazing Life Changing Event! 

Also, visit www.musicfest2014.org to get ALL the details and even make a donation! 

Invite your friends and family! SEE YOU there!
Don't forget your Lawn Chairs or Blankets!!
Paul Paoli Band
Never Forsaken
Dave Pettigrew
And many others!

Friday, August 15, 2014

August 15 Chp 34 v 4 TWELVE STEPPING WITH STRENGTH FROM THE PSALMS


I prayed to the Lord , and He answered me . He freed me from all my fears .


STEP 2 - Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity .




It is true ! I celebrated fourteen years sober this past June . To deal with my fear , I used until I was brave ,the problem with that was my life became more fearful because of the consequences of my addictions. Plus addiction gave me a false perception of reality which in turn created a delusional sense of security .
PRAYER WORKS ! ADDICTION DOSEN 'T !



John 14 : 27 I am leaving you with a gift—peace of mind and heart. And the peace I give is a gift the world cannot give. So don’t be troubled or afraid. 
Conquering Grounds Music Fest 2014 ~ September 13th ~ Please Help and Support 




Hello Friends!



Hope you all are doing well and having a great summer! I wanted to spread the Word and ask you to save the date for theConquering Grounds Music Fest 2014. Our 2nd annual event is being held September 13th from 12noon to 8PM on the grounds of Christian Life Center in Bensalem, PA. This year the Music Fest is a FREE event with all proceeds going to help fight the Epidemic of Addiction. The Flyer for the event is below….



We are putting together a “Memory and Reflection” Tent for those who have lost someone they love to addiction. Our tent theme is White, Gold and Purple.

Do any of you have an outdoor tent/canopy that I can borrow for the day? We really need a tent(s) or canopy with a white top/sides. If not, do you know of anyone that may have one or two tents they can lend?

It would be greatly appreciated and well taken care of.



If any of you know anyone that would like to be remembered or know of a family who has lost someone to any form of addiction, please let me know. We are reaching out to families as we believe their loved ones deserve to be remembered. There is still time to honor them and have their names recorded and remembered in our Book of Memories.



I’m attaching a consent form to forward if you know of anyone who may be interested in participating. Please put them in touch with Nancy Lion directly - 




Remember! It’s Free to attend this year’s Music Fest 2014! This year promises to be a great event for everyone! We have Awesome Bands performing, Special Speakers, Testimonies and Worship,

Prayer Tent, Resource Tables and Vendors, Tons of Food and an expanded kids area with face painting, arts and crafts, a puppet show, moonbounce and kids playground!



Please spread the word! Bring your families out! We Need your support! It’s for a great cause…You never know when Addiction can strike someone you Love!



If you can’t make it, please consider making a tax deductible donation so that our Ministry can continue to help families and those struggling with addiction through our many resources, programs and scholarships.



Donations can be made by going directly to www.musicfest2014.org or visit our Facebook Page - Conquering Grounds Music Fest 2014 and “ LIKE” and “JOIN” the page! You can also find us on YouTube.



There are a few Sponsor packages available which start at only $100.00! We are still in need of Volunteers the day of the event. If anyone can help out that day, please contact Nancy ASAP at 215 694 6014

Along with Bob Sofronski, our Director of Christian Life Prison and Recovery Ministry and on behalf of the Board at CLPRM

I wholeheartedly thank each and every one of you for your support and commitment and I ask God to Bless you and your Families!



Nancy Lion

Secretary to CLPRM 

Bob Sofronski, Executive Director
Christian Life Prison and Recovery Ministries, Inc.
Po Box 1624
Southampton, PA 18966

Robin Williams’ Death Highlights Increasing Suicide Rate Among Adults 45 to 64
August 13th, 2014/



U.S. health officials say Robin Williams’ death highlights the increasing rate of suicide among American adults ages 45 to 64, The Wall Street Journal reports. Williams, 63, died in an apparent suicide on Monday.

Suicide risk increases in people who are struggling with drug and alcohol use and depression. Williams had dealt with all of these, according to The New York Times. After a period of cocaine use early in his career, Williams quit in the mid-80s. He sought treatment for alcohol abuse in 2006, and had recently been treated for severe depression.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), suicide rates for adults ages 45 to 64 increased 40 percent from 1999 to 2011. Jill Harkavy-Friedman, Vice President of Research at the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, says the suicide rate for people in middle age to late middle age is higher than any other group. “We don’t hear about middle-age or older people who kill themselves unless they’re a star like Robin Williams,” she said. “Because it’s so shocking when a younger person dies, there’s a tendency of re-reporting and romanticizing.”

Possible reasons for the increased suicide rate in this age group could include economic pressures, health problems and the increased use and abuse of prescription drugs, Julie Phillips, Associate Professor of Sociology at Rutgers University, told the newspaper. She noted social isolation may also play a role.

Efforts to prevent suicide have largely focused on young people and the elderly, according to Alex Crosby of the CDC. “Middle-aged adults got kind of left out in the thinking of where to focus to resources for suicide prevention,” he said. “It’s important for us to examine more closely and put more resources into that population.”